HGVs
I dont live here anymore, but still am passionate about what goes on, did I read about HGVs parking on the estate, if so there is one parked on the roundabout, it has been there over a hour now.
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There's often an HGV parked
There's often an HGV parked on the roundabout - I think it's someone that lives on the estate.
Nice to see you still posting, Sharky, how's things?
HGV tonight
There is a large HGV parked on the pavement/ mini roundabout tonight. Can any one reading this call the on line number if you object to the estate being a lorry park as this issue was raisec at the last NHW meeting.
All I will say on the matter
All I will say on the matter of HGV's parking on the estate, anyone that does complain about this or phones the council about it, also tell the council about the other commercial vehicles on the estate e.g. all the work vans etc and also the amount of caravans that block the pavements especially during the summer months. As you will find in the covenants for the estate they are not allowed either.
My view on the matter is everyone has a job to do, and personally does not bother me what parks on the estate aslong as its not causing to much of an obstruction, also people could possibly ask the council about possibly getting double yellow lines around the estate and getting traffic wardens, now that would sort the issues out LMAO
Contradicttion
D5314mcrat. The two sentences in your post appear to contradict each other, You first ask people to reprt all comercial vehicles parking on the estate and then state it does not bother you what parks on the estate.
As I recall you were one of the great drivers for road safety in and around the estate. I just hope no one gets knocked down attempting to cross the road whilst a great HGV is obstructing their view.
But I do not suppose you will be parking your train on the drive !!!
Oh and I know of one person on the estate who drives a cattle truck for a living , I dare bet that not many people would like that parked up and leaking outside their house.
Hi Steve I have not
Hi Steve
I have not contradicted myself, what I stated is if people are going to complain about HGV's they need to complain about the other types of vehicles etc that are mentioned in the covenants of the estate, as it does not matter if its a van, pick up, HGV, caravan or car parked irresponsibly or dangerous they all cause a danger to pedestrians and other road users.
But if they are parked properly and not obstructing anyone, then yes I do not see an issue with it.
D5314mcrat wrote:Hi Steve I
[quote=D5314mcrat]Hi Steve
I have not contradicted myself, what I stated is if people are going to complain about HGV's they need to complain about the other types of vehicles etc that are mentioned in the covenants of the estate, as it does not matter if its a van, pick up, HGV, caravan or car parked irresponsibly or dangerous they all cause a danger to pedestrians and other road users.
But if they are parked properly and not obstructing anyone, then yes I do not see an issue with it.[/quote]
Please refer to this post I do not agree with things parked irresponsibly, as I stated if things are parked properly and not obstructing anyone I stated I do not see an issue with this.
But as always if anyone disagrees with a selected few people on this site the nasty remarks start coming out, what the hell my job has to do with it about parking a bloody train on the drive, I am surprised the nasty emails have not started coming through again, I will quote one of the emails I sent when I was receiving these emails to refresh everyone's memory.
I stated yes I no longer wish to chair any meetings and that I would attend meetings, but I also stated I would pursue any issues that I hold close to me through other avenues and any info I do find out would pass on. As far as I was concerned this was me saying would not be part of the NHW but would possibly show up at some meetings when time permits.
HGV
Why would people complain about peoples work vans etc etc when they are needed to travel to and from the place of employment.
I know that HGV drivers normally use their personal transport to get to their place of work to collect their HGV vehicles, and leave their private vehicles on site and drop off the lorry (HGV) on their return, then come home in the private vehicle...............................
It is only parked their for the convenience of the driver, not neccesity
I personallydo not have a problem but it causes a hazard where it is parked in my opinion, the fact that it is parked their suggests the driver can not fit it on his drive!!!!!
Gordy
How Predictable LOL Surely
How Predictable LOL
Surely people can also leave there works vans etc etc, at there companies premises also, as you find alot of the works vans etc etc, also not parked on their driveways due to their own personal cars being there also, so this is surely double standards you are quoting, also my point is its in the covenants that no commercial vehicles or caravans on the estate (or is the NHW prepared to ignore these issues). Also there is a modern thing such as public transport in stoke on Trent, for travelling to and from a place of work or also for leisure.
Tony last time I knew, you
Tony last time I knew, you were still part of the NHW, you only stepped down from the holding the NHW chair role?
[quote=D5314mcrat]or is the NHW prepared to ignore these issues.[/quote]
Nothing on the TV tonight
Nothing on the TV tonight Tony?
HGVS
Tony, you are right about the covernants, but do not shout too loudly about this, I had to get an indemnity policy when selling my house for having a conservatory, as it altered the look of the original building. As for the HGV parking, surely it is illegal to park a vehicle on a roundabout.
HGV
Now thats a totally differnt point public transport and cycle routes...........
They can indeed leave their vehicles at their workplace i agree with you, but as with some people they are self employed and do not have an office to go to and from, unlike Mr or Mrs HGV driver
What does the driving instructor living among us do if you are correct?
I was saying that most commercial vehicles parked on the estate are smaller than say 60ft,
If i have my car signwrited does that make it against the covenant to park it on my drive?
Gordy
sign writing
Yes it does if you live on the Wilcon side, not sure about the Barratt side, you are not allowed to leave a for sale sign in your vehicle.
Hi Gordy You will find most
Hi Gordy
You will find most people also have a car, also you get self employed lorry drivers like in most trades, regarding having a car sign written thats something you would have to look into, if you have concerns about breaking the covenant of the property. when you exchanged contracts your solicitor should make people fully aware of them issues like our solicitor did.
Moemories
D5314mcrat. I remember you posting on this site about irresponsible parking on the estate or is your memory begining to fade like your interest in the NHW ?.
So lets be honest most of us are not concerned about the caravan of works van on a drive but a very large HGV is another matter altogether.
Curlymories and Larrymories
Moemories Steve? Nuck Nuck Nuck....
Steve wrote:D5314mcrat. I
[quote=Steve]D5314mcrat. I remember you posting on this site about irresponsible parking on the estate or is your memory begining to fade like your interest in the NHW ?.
So lets be honest most of us are not concerned about the caravan of works van on a drive but a very large HGV is another matter altogether.[/quote]
Whether he is in the NHW or not this has nothing to do with this discussion, I can quite see now how he doesn't want to be part of the NHW now
I can quite understand why not many people post on this forum as soon as you have your own opinion the sarky comments come out. I have seen it before on here.
Freedom of Speach
Thats what a fourm is all about having your say, and if you disagree, disagree .
What a lovely friendly NHW
What a lovely friendly NHW we have on this estate aslong as you agree with them LMAO
Web Monkey wrote:Thats what
[quote=Web Monkey]Thats what a fourm is all about having your say, and if you disagree, disagree .[/quote]
"Freedom of Speech" yes I quite agree, I like a good discussion like anyone else, we can't all agree on everything, when it's starts to get personal is what I don't agree with or dragging up what someone said a year ago, that is not relevant to the discussion.
Covernants
I agree, covernants belong on a different thread, I am sure I read that our local bobbies said that if HGVs park on the estate, to inform them, cannot find the damn comment, help web monkey!
PC Talbots summer update
Hiya Mark - Have you settled in yet?
Your correct Glyn did say to call him if you see HGV's illegally parking on the estate.
http://www.bankeyfields.co.uk/forum/summer-update-police-updates
Talking of HGV's....
- Play the Truckers
Thought I had read it somewhere
Sorry but the search facility on the PDA takes too long, thanks for asking, am settling in very well, miss the estate, but you cannot have everything, but never say never!
Does anyone have a list of each of the estates covernants
If any one has a list of the covernants, then please get in touch with me and I can get them scanned in, and placed on the site for everyone to see.
Deeds
A list of covernants should be with the deeds, but it does not make good reading, as I think everyone has broken at least one of them!
To whomever it may concern i
To whomever it may concern i was not attempting to offend or gang up on any one.
I was merely stating that I (me) personally thought it was quite wrong to park a great big HGV half on and half off the pavement on a roundabout, i do not wish to get the person responsible in trouble with anyone, i would like them to find a more suitable place to park their vehicle.
Yes people have to work but there is a major difference in a trade van parked in front of someones property or on their driveway, than an articulated lorry parked in such a way as to be deemed a hazard.
Gordy
Hi Gordy I did not agree
Hi Gordy
I did not agree with it either, if people take time to read my posts,I stated if parked correctly and responsibly. And not go totally off topic about parking a train on my drive etc. Then none of this childish stupidity needed to be posted on the forum.
And if works vans etc are parked on peoples drives and not blocking up pavements etc. e.g. parked properly and responsibly then yes there is not an issue with it but with any type of vehicle if it is blocking the view or pavement then yes it should be moved. But not having a go at anyone your last message is the first time it has been mentioned it was actually parked on the pavement.
Missing the point
The thread was about HGVs, as web monkey found that the police need to be contacted, or the council, to see if any bylaws are being broken, lets stick to facts people.
sharky wrote:The thread was
[quote=sharky]The thread was about HGVs, as web monkey found that the police need to be contacted, or the council, to see if any bylaws are being broken, lets stick to facts people.[/quote]
HERE HERE.
You find certain people on every forum you visit, do not like to stick to facts though and like to try and throw in a few personal insults etc, nearly everytime on this forum when someone says something they get slated by someone with snidely remarks. And before anyone says free speech YES we do know free speech is allowed but why not keep to the topics and not act like children. Rant Over
HGV
Please read Steve's first post it stated clearly that "HGV parked on the pavement/ mini roundabout tonight"
It was the main bugbear of the issue, either you did not see it or you chose to ignore it, i do not know which.
My issue now is how you either provoked or otherwise have a pop at the NHW that you were a part of. If you have an issue that you do not want to go alone on then please let the NHW know, or post it on this site so we can discuss it at the next meeting.
the NHW is one group which i feel has done a tremendous job in getting issue resolved and important imformation out to the residents of both estates, as you yourself did in a previous incarnation of the NHW.
Gordy
I did not ignore it, I will
I did not ignore it, I will admit I did not see the part about actually being on the pavement, to which I will apologise for.in regards to provoking people I did not provoke anyone what I stated was facts, that if you are going to complain about one type of vehicle you have to sort the issues out with other vehicles also. And also brought up an interesting part about the covenants. But I suppose some people wear blinkers when looking at certain issues and only look at part of the problems. Its like the changes to the roundabout which are great for the estate in getting out, but if you are sitting waiting to leave focus at the roundabout, now that is a different matter obviously when the plans were done they did not take the time to check out what the implications are for all junctions, as you can see nothing.
Going off at Tangents again
For goodness sake, thread, HGV contravening byelaws, not works vans on drives, not roundabouts, not covernants, start a new topic guys, you say here here, then off you go again. Please start a topic on covernants.
NHW
Sorry D5314mcrat i did not mean you had provoked it was that you may have been provoked into passing comment about the NHW, this issue i see was not involving the NHW tonight but about personalities.....
As a NHW we had a chance to post / visit / ballot all the estate on the upcoming changes that were going to be made to the junction.
Drawings were placed on this site and distributed to most of both estates via volunteers and feedback was requested from all residents, as far as i was aware these plans were given approval by those who returned their forms.
The relevant agencies were responsible for the changes after a campaign by ourselves to get something done, i guess you could ask them the question if they did a proper feasability study on this junction, but i do remember seeing a few cars parked logging activity around the junction.
I will try to get over to the Focus side and see what the issue is for myself but i have as far as i can remember not had an issue myself or have heard of one until now.
Gordy
Thank you all
Thank you all for your input. I think that has been the most posts on one topic in a sub 24 hour period for some considerable time.
If a subject is controversial people get passionate and a debate takes place. It is health for this site.
Tennis anyone
NHW aims and objectives.
The NHW can't get involved in dispute residents have with their neighbours over parking, issues , housing covenants etc. However the community web site provides all of the relevant information for residents to contact the relevant authorities on the home page under the "info" tab. The community website is also provided for anyone to air their views if they wish to raise support for their plight.
The NHW's aim is to help to prevent crime, pass on warnings and alerts, liase with Police on local and anti social issues and to make the estate a safe place to live.
Projects such as RMW speeding, roundabout campaigns, maintainance of the open space and adoption of the estate by the council are issues we as a group are prepared to come together and pool our resources to work on. If anyone has any ideas for the benifit of the estate please put them forward for us to consider.
Train on a Truck !!!
Well the lorry is on the mini roundabout and you are not going belive this ........ Its loaded with train bogies (wheels) now has somebody brought their hobby kit home I wonder. Bit bigger than the average Hornby set.
Railway bits on a truck
Is this the chap from the English Electric Preservation bringing his hobby home??
I don't think this train set will fit in any of the gardens around here!!!!
haha I have a big garden at
haha I have a big garden at my house, and was hoping nobody would notice the train being sneaked in. Damn will need to do it under the cover of darkness next time.
Job lot of sleepers
I thought the Garden Surgeon had misordered his sleepers and got a lorry load of bogies instead. (BOGIES -you've made that up right Steve?)
Bogies
No Bogies is the correct term , if it were incorect I am sure our very own Pete Waterman would have put me right by now.
At least it is not parked on the pavement, I wonder how you wold write a ticket for a train parking offence.
LOL was not going to say
LOL was not going to say anything steve, but since you asked I will respond, just wish I had Pete Watermans money lol
The lorry is only carrying wheelsets and not bogies, the difference is when there is an actual frame is around the wheels it is a bogie, when they are on their own like they are it is wheelsets LMAO
Picture of a bogie
http://www.englishelectricpreservation.co.uk/files/images/IMG_1453.jpg
Chuffed Chuffed !!!!
Chuffed (gerrit) That you pointed that one out, So WM looks like I have run out of steam on this one. Lets not go off the rails and keep this thread on track as I am sure you will be on your guard and blow the whistle on me......
LOL no more to say, I like
LOL no more to say, I like your wording very good
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